Post by Zyraen on Feb 1, 2013 15:14:48 GMT 8
As a note, since this came up before a few times, I decided to do some checking on Free Actions, particularly if it comes to ruling for Character Deaths in Epic Destiny, etc.
I found the below Paragraph in Glossary, under Immediate Action that replaces the above. So the above has been replaced with the following, but remains in Quotes for easy Reference.
"If an effect has a trigger but is neither an immediate action nor an opportunity action, assume that it behaves like an immediate reaction, waiting for its trigger to completely resolve.
However, ignore this guideline when the effect has to interrupt its trigger to function.
For instance, if a triggered power allows an adventurer to use a free action to reroll an attack roll, with the hope of turning a miss into a hit, the power must interrupt the trigger (“You miss with an attack”) to function; otherwise the attack would be resolved as a miss."
Yep, it is quite sucky as a Rule, but I guess I shouldn't complain since it lends more to GM discretion. This Rule would generally apply to Free Actions and No Actions.
Hope this helps.
So far, for lack of a more firm answer from more Recent Rules, I've found the following under QuickStartRules.pdf
Note that QuickStartRules is one of the earliest forms of 4E rules, and certainly earlier than the now commonly used Rules Compendium. If I have missed any relevant info in RC, feel free to let me know.
Free Actions With Triggers: A few powers that have triggers are free actions. These powers act like immediate interrupts, but they can be used during your turn as well as during any other combatants’ turn.
Based on above, and given that Quick Start Rules have other sections describing Free Actions, I would venture the following :
- only Free Actions that have a Trigger interrupt the Trigger.
- All Other Free Actions are NOT Interrupts.
Note that Free Actions can be used on your own Turn, and even when you are Dazed.
A similar ruling applies to No Action.
Note that QuickStartRules is one of the earliest forms of 4E rules, and certainly earlier than the now commonly used Rules Compendium. If I have missed any relevant info in RC, feel free to let me know.
Free Actions With Triggers: A few powers that have triggers are free actions. These powers act like immediate interrupts, but they can be used during your turn as well as during any other combatants’ turn.
Based on above, and given that Quick Start Rules have other sections describing Free Actions, I would venture the following :
- only Free Actions that have a Trigger interrupt the Trigger.
- All Other Free Actions are NOT Interrupts.
Note that Free Actions can be used on your own Turn, and even when you are Dazed.
A similar ruling applies to No Action.
I found the below Paragraph in Glossary, under Immediate Action that replaces the above. So the above has been replaced with the following, but remains in Quotes for easy Reference.
"If an effect has a trigger but is neither an immediate action nor an opportunity action, assume that it behaves like an immediate reaction, waiting for its trigger to completely resolve.
However, ignore this guideline when the effect has to interrupt its trigger to function.
For instance, if a triggered power allows an adventurer to use a free action to reroll an attack roll, with the hope of turning a miss into a hit, the power must interrupt the trigger (“You miss with an attack”) to function; otherwise the attack would be resolved as a miss."
Yep, it is quite sucky as a Rule, but I guess I shouldn't complain since it lends more to GM discretion. This Rule would generally apply to Free Actions and No Actions.
Hope this helps.